Showing posts with label 1965 A and BC The Rolling Stones. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 1965 A and BC The Rolling Stones. Show all posts

Wednesday, October 13, 2010

Little By Little

Well, a far flung dispatch from Wales has worked its way to the main research center here at the Topps Archives. Friend o'the Archive and frequent Wrapper contributor Bill Christensen has passed along a recollection from Mark Edmunds, who lived in South Wales as a plenty n gwrryw (hope I got that right), although a bit after the A&BC Rolling Stones cards discussed here last month were released, recalls:

"South Wales was used as a test area for lots of cards in the 1960's ...they weren't produced in Wales but some shops where I lived had boxes of A&BC stuff ...the big problem was that because of the tight money situation in Wales the shop might of had a box of say, CWN (Civil War News) , that would sell out but instead of another box of CWN they would replace it with say The Stones..."



Apparently, even if you re-ordered a certain product, a different one might show up at the "test" shops. This is a slightly different method than used in the US, where a couple of local shops in Brooklyn and later Duryea were used to test cards dropped off by Topps employees.

More on test issues in the US, UK and elsewhere is coming as fall gives way to winter.

Thursday, September 23, 2010

Gonna Catch The First Thing Smokin'

A Muddy Waters song and this blog do not often cross paths unless I have Itunes playing as I type. The title above is from "Rollin' Stone" a 1948 composition by Muddy and, as well documented pretty much anywhere you may care to look, is the song which gave the Rolling Stones their name. I must confess to being a bigger Muddy fan; I like the Brian Jones and Mick Taylor era Stones, especially the latter part of the 60's but the lengthy Ron Wood years leave me flat, although his work with The Faces was aces.

In '48 Muddy was really starting to take off in Chicago, although the non-African American community would not really hear of him for a good decade more. Having gone electric a couple of years earlier, Muddy was cresting toward a creative peak starting about late 1951 that he would ride through the decade and beyond. Don't believe me? Check out this spjne tingler with Junior Wells on Harmonica circa 1952.

No worries, I have not switched to a musical format!

In 1965, after having massive success with their Beatles trading cards, A&BC Gum, which was Topps' UK licensee but also created their own sets, issued a 40 card set of The Rolling Stones that seems like it should have been solid gold. However, the cards either were not marketed properly or simply did not sell and while not truly scarce are now reasonably difficult to track down. Nigel, over at his English Football site, believes the cards were a test issue and distributed to a select group of 20 stores in South London and South Wales to see how things would go.

I would think the Stones fans overall were slightly older than those of the Beatles and that may explain the lack of success as they had passed the "event horizon" for this set. Whatever the reason, David Halpen (another Anglophile collector) believes the cards were sold in South Wales on a limited basis. Here is David's image of a wrapper that held three cards, sort of the British version of a penny pack:



Only a handful of these wrappers exist in the wild apparently. You will see the cards sold for two Pence ("d" for denarius is how that is shown) and I think that was around a penny and a half US at the time, using 2.8 dollars per Pound, with 240 Pence to the Pound). This was all prior to decimal day in 1971!

The cards are really sharp with excellent photography, although why Bill Wyman posed with a cactus is beyond me on this scan of David's:



Backs are sparse, as was common at the time with the entertainment sets of both Topps and A&BC and give no clue as to subject matter beyond the basics (not the same card by the way):



Too bad they are so hard to find; they are very collectible.